# Time to weigh in on The Grove?

**URL:** <https://forum.atxfriends.org/t/time-to-weigh-in-on-the-grove/470>\
**Category:** General Austin\
**Created:** [June 1, 2016, 4:36am UTC](https://forum.atxfriends.org/t/time-to-weigh-in-on-the-grove/470 "2016-06-01T04:36:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![andrea\_freiburger](https://forum.atxfriends.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/df788c/32.png) [@andrea\_freiburger](https://forum.atxfriends.org/u/andrea_freiburger)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 2:52am UTC](https://forum.atxfriends.org/t/time-to-weigh-in-on-the-grove/470/21 "2016-06-15T02:52:09Z")

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I think this resolution is great. Like Pete, I, too, wanted it to be more generally applicable to all PUDs, but after another read of Evan’s wording, I think this strikes a good balance between overall FAN principles and some very specific language on the Grove in particular. My fear is that a more general resolution may not hold as much weight as one that has been voted on by the FAN membership, naming the Grove at Shoal Creek, so there is no mistaking our intent. This ties our ideals to a very real world example.

Thanks for your work on this!

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**Author:** ![cevangill](https://forum.atxfriends.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@cevangill](https://forum.atxfriends.org/u/cevangill)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 3:30pm UTC](https://forum.atxfriends.org/t/time-to-weigh-in-on-the-grove/470/22 "2016-06-15T15:30:15Z")

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OK, so how do we get this up for a vote? I think we’re racing the clock against the June 21st ZAP meeting. And if ZAP does not approve the PUD, or if they vote to significantly reduce the density, the Grove as currently planned could be dead.

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**Author:** ![rcauvin](https://forum.atxfriends.org/user_avatar/forum.atxfriends.org/rcauvin/32/4_2.png) [@rcauvin](https://forum.atxfriends.org/u/rcauvin)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://forum.atxfriends.org/t/time-to-weigh-in-on-the-grove/470/23 "2016-06-15T19:25:54Z")

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The process is for at least one member of the FAN board to sponsor the resolution. When a FAN board member sponsors a resolution, it does not necessarily mean that she favors the resolution, only that she believes it is consistent with the FAN vision, is not frivolous, and is ready for a vote of the membership.

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**Author:** ![alyshalynn](https://forum.atxfriends.org/user_avatar/forum.atxfriends.org/alyshalynn/32/50_2.png) [@alyshalynn](https://forum.atxfriends.org/u/alyshalynn)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 10:30pm UTC](https://forum.atxfriends.org/t/time-to-weigh-in-on-the-grove/470/24 "2016-06-15T22:30:35Z")

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I’ve definitely expressed in my own NA that I’m not amenable to a lot of the seemingly quid-pro-quo resolutions that a lot of N’hood Associations have been spreading amongst themselves. This kind of behavior somewhat undermines the 10-1 aspect of City govt, but I’m also not so sure I’m behind the 10-1 structure. There’s a lot of mixed feeling on my end is what I’m getting at here.

I also could see how a resolution to add the amount of housing proposed at The Grove would be beneficial to the City at large and an example of the implementation of Imagine Austin initiatives.

If we’ve come to a stopping point on anyone submitting more edits on this particular resolution, I suppose the rest should be left up to members to decide if this indeed fits their idea of what a FAN Resolution should work toward. It doesn’t hurt to put it to a vote. Putting this forth doesn’t mean FAN necessarily supports it, and the outcome could help us understand whether or not targeted issues like this are important for our members.

I’ll make the motion here to go forward with the wording of this resolution by 5:30 CST Thursday, as a vote to the membership if no more edits are suggested before then.

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**Author:** ![kimberly](https://forum.atxfriends.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kimberly](https://forum.atxfriends.org/u/kimberly)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 1:13am UTC](https://forum.atxfriends.org/t/time-to-weigh-in-on-the-grove/470/25 "2016-06-16T01:13:24Z")

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I second the motion. I definitely favor the development and Evan’s resolution.

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**Author:** ![Phil\_Wiley](https://forum.atxfriends.org/user_avatar/forum.atxfriends.org/phil_wiley/32/737_2.png) [@Phil\_Wiley](https://forum.atxfriends.org/u/Phil_Wiley)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 3:51pm UTC](https://forum.atxfriends.org/t/time-to-weigh-in-on-the-grove/470/26 "2016-06-16T15:51:33Z")

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@alyshalynn, I’m going to take the position that this resolution is exactly the type of thing we not only need to have, but need to do much more often - real world examples where land use decisions are being made, and how it ties into the FAN vision + Imagine Austin.

Our member NA’s sometimes experience similar challenges, and we certainly share many at a city wide level, so it would seem like the point is to have NA’s work together to deal with them, which FAN should encourage and aid. In my humble opinion, it’s in the more is needed category.

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**Author:** ![alyshalynn](https://forum.atxfriends.org/user_avatar/forum.atxfriends.org/alyshalynn/32/50_2.png) [@alyshalynn](https://forum.atxfriends.org/u/alyshalynn)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 7:50pm UTC](https://forum.atxfriends.org/t/time-to-weigh-in-on-the-grove/470/27 "2016-06-16T19:50:58Z")

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With no suggested edits to this resolution after our outreach to members, it looks like this specific language will be going to a vote with a few others in the upcoming days.

Watch your inboxes for your Helios voting ballots and check out the other discussions going on now:

**Homestead Exemptions**

> [@Resolution on COA Homestead Exemption](http://forum.atxfriends.org/t/resolution-on-coa-homestead-exemption/462/):
>
> As many of you know, City Council began the yearly budget process earlier this spring and has been holding regular budget work sessions ever since. Now is the time for them to learn about the budget forecast and begin to make important decisions about where to allocate those funds. Unlike last year, this year’s budget will have much less room for major spending increases or shifts in spending. I would like to propose a FAN vote on the homestead exemption (HEx) issue for the following reasons: …

**Complete Communities Indicators**

> [@Complete Communities Indicators Resolution](http://forum.atxfriends.org/t/complete-communities-indicators-resolution/471):
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> Recently, FAN member Wooten Neighborhood Association voted to urge cify officials to orient CodeNEXT (the effort to revise the land development code to promote a compact and connected city) and other city initiatives around the complete communities indicators listed in the Imagine Austin comprehensive plan. Today, @hfrankel07 sent the letter below on behalf of WNA to city council. The Downtown Austin Neighborhood Association had previously sent a similar letter. I propose that FANs vote on whet…

**Carport Exemption**

> [@FAN Carport Exemption](http://forum.atxfriends.org/t/carport-exemption/485):
>
> On the June 28 Planning Commission agenda they will hear an item to remove the 450 sf FAR exemption for attached carports. If this exemption is removed, then this will effectively be eating into how much housing can be built and that housing will be used to house cars instead. People will be required to include carports into their calculations and won’t be able to build other housing like ADUs. Since it looks like we are voting on other issues tomorrow, if anyone wants to discuss this as a poss…

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**Author:** ![ChadV](https://forum.atxfriends.org/user_avatar/forum.atxfriends.org/chadv/32/46_2.png) [@ChadV](https://forum.atxfriends.org/u/ChadV)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 4:19am UTC](https://forum.atxfriends.org/t/time-to-weigh-in-on-the-grove/470/28 "2016-06-18T04:19:00Z")

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I’m baffled by this poorly-formatted email I just got from Helios. It claims I just voted, when I have not:

```
Dear Chad Vanderlinden,

Dear <VOTER_NAME>,

<BODY>

Election URL: https://vote.heliosvoting.org/helios/e/june-2016-resolutions/vote
Election Fingerprint: JgkhggffdJhgfkuhgkfjfjtfJfjftYtrjhvbgfJjgvj

Your voter ID: <VOTER_LOGIN_ID>
Your password: <VOTER_PASSWORD>

We have recorded your vote with smart tracker:

  <SMART_TRACKER>

You may re-vote if you wish: only your last vote counts.

--
Helios

Election URL: https://vote.heliosvoting.org/helios/e/june-2016-resolutions/vote
Election Fingerprint: JgkhggffdJhgfkuhgkfjfjtfJfjftYtrjhvbgfJjgvj

Your voter ID: thiswasntmyrealidanyway
Your password: norwasthismyrealpassword

--
Helios
```

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**Author:** ![Pete\_Gilcrease](https://forum.atxfriends.org/user_avatar/forum.atxfriends.org/pete_gilcrease/32/2_2.png) [@Pete\_Gilcrease](https://forum.atxfriends.org/u/Pete_Gilcrease)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 3:02pm UTC](https://forum.atxfriends.org/t/time-to-weigh-in-on-the-grove/470/29 "2016-06-18T15:02:19Z")

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The first part was mistakenly added in. You haven’t voted unless you have voted. =) The ballots have been resent.

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